You make some very excellent points. As a catholic I feel like this whole situation is very messy. I like your arguments and I'd love to hear someone respond to them. Either way, unity in Christ my brother!
I had always liked and believed in the SSPX until......please look at their suggested Examination of Conscience. The usual list of common sins, id est, have you stolen, lied / borne false witness, etc. BUT then, have you attended the New Mass!!!!! If they truly consider all of us who have indeed attended the "Novus Ordo" , whether done in Latin or English, to be in mortal sin, and they believe that we did NOT receive the Body and Blood of Our Lord in Holy Communion, then no longer can I take them any more seriously than I would a Pharisee who would happily damn to Hell anyone who did not do as he said. I certainly do not follow the various blasphemies often endorsed, explicitly or implicitly, by the last two Popes! But neither can I agree with anyone who thinks that the millions of souls who have attended the "New Mass" for the last fifty years or more, are all either heretics or imbeciles. All that said, I certainly do not hold any hard feelings toward any who choose to attend the SSPX, and as always, pray daily for the preservation of the holy Faith. Pax tecum, Father C.
I urge all to read lefebres 1987? Letter to catholics . This is not just about the changes to mass .
Heresy is ubiquitous since modernists hijacked Vatican 2 replacing the orthodox schema ( lefebre produced some ) and even committee chairs with their modernists using knowingly ambiguous language to suit their ends .
Read it .
Even Catechesis of children and religious formation of priests wilfully corrupted . Sacraments diluted or renoved , heretical practises and that was even back then .
It is beyond dispute that both liturgy and bishop selection was done by active Freemasons , who appointed their own , and as cardinals and by limiting age and so removing conservatives the modernists renoved Benedict apppinting apostates Francis and Leo .
This is the apostasy foretold by our lady at la sallette garabandal , and is the true third secret of Fatima
Since being a mason is instant excommunication neither the bishops appointed by them or the popes are licit .
All lefebre could do was rewind back to proper tradition.
It is clear heretic leo who also bowed to pachamama and will embrace any heretic as ecumenism or even appoint them as bishops but not embrace the faithful - he deliberately wanted to kill pf sspx by starving them of bishops
So we are in a battle against the devil of masonry embodied all through the hierarchy , so we are not only in an emergency but we have almost lost
We should view it as a repeat of athanasius contra mundum - then as in Portugal pre Fatima it was the laity kept the faith alive
So Leo cannot order anyone contrary to the deposit of faith nor can he claim Vatican 2 as dogma it was not a dogmatic council
So for me , bravo sspx keeping the true faith alive in the time of heretic popes
First Canterbury tries to send all her members to Rome, then Rome tries to send a million of her members to Hell. Perhaps Constantinople will be the next to shoot herself in the foot?
You make some very excellent points. As a catholic I feel like this whole situation is very messy. I like your arguments and I'd love to hear someone respond to them. Either way, unity in Christ my brother!
Amen to that. God bless you
I had always liked and believed in the SSPX until......please look at their suggested Examination of Conscience. The usual list of common sins, id est, have you stolen, lied / borne false witness, etc. BUT then, have you attended the New Mass!!!!! If they truly consider all of us who have indeed attended the "Novus Ordo" , whether done in Latin or English, to be in mortal sin, and they believe that we did NOT receive the Body and Blood of Our Lord in Holy Communion, then no longer can I take them any more seriously than I would a Pharisee who would happily damn to Hell anyone who did not do as he said. I certainly do not follow the various blasphemies often endorsed, explicitly or implicitly, by the last two Popes! But neither can I agree with anyone who thinks that the millions of souls who have attended the "New Mass" for the last fifty years or more, are all either heretics or imbeciles. All that said, I certainly do not hold any hard feelings toward any who choose to attend the SSPX, and as always, pray daily for the preservation of the holy Faith. Pax tecum, Father C.
I urge all to read lefebres 1987? Letter to catholics . This is not just about the changes to mass .
Heresy is ubiquitous since modernists hijacked Vatican 2 replacing the orthodox schema ( lefebre produced some ) and even committee chairs with their modernists using knowingly ambiguous language to suit their ends .
Read it .
Even Catechesis of children and religious formation of priests wilfully corrupted . Sacraments diluted or renoved , heretical practises and that was even back then .
It is beyond dispute that both liturgy and bishop selection was done by active Freemasons , who appointed their own , and as cardinals and by limiting age and so removing conservatives the modernists renoved Benedict apppinting apostates Francis and Leo .
This is the apostasy foretold by our lady at la sallette garabandal , and is the true third secret of Fatima
Since being a mason is instant excommunication neither the bishops appointed by them or the popes are licit .
All lefebre could do was rewind back to proper tradition.
It is clear heretic leo who also bowed to pachamama and will embrace any heretic as ecumenism or even appoint them as bishops but not embrace the faithful - he deliberately wanted to kill pf sspx by starving them of bishops
So we are in a battle against the devil of masonry embodied all through the hierarchy , so we are not only in an emergency but we have almost lost
We should view it as a repeat of athanasius contra mundum - then as in Portugal pre Fatima it was the laity kept the faith alive
So Leo cannot order anyone contrary to the deposit of faith nor can he claim Vatican 2 as dogma it was not a dogmatic council
So for me , bravo sspx keeping the true faith alive in the time of heretic popes
First Canterbury tries to send all her members to Rome, then Rome tries to send a million of her members to Hell. Perhaps Constantinople will be the next to shoot herself in the foot?
Let us hope that our Orthodox brethren may not fall into the traps often laid by those in power within the Church!!